Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

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Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby rbullington » Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:58 pm

Hello, Everyone!

Is there a way to control the menus available in the main screen for a course by the user's level. I'm attaching the main screen for one of my courses:

course area-redacted.jpg


I don't want students to see the "Teacher" menu. I could do it either by user level (only levels "Administrator" or higher see the "Teacher" area), or I could only allows users subscribed to the course at the "Instructor" or "Administrator" level see the "Teacher" area.

Is this possible?

Many thanks, Robert
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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby max » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:58 am

Hi Robert,

yes of course!

Normally students should NOT have access to the teacher area, so I suppose there must be some wrong permissions in your menu settings.

The default settings are that Administrator can see all the modules in teacher area, Teachers as well, Tutors and Mentors can only see some of them. Students, guests and ghosts should NOT see the teacher area.

You can check your settings in your back-end (check who is able to see the teacher menu, save the menu you are modifying and re-apply to the course) or in the course front-end (if you do have the "manage menu" module).
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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby rbullington » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:13 pm

Thanks, Max!

I'm relieved to know that I'll eventually be able to control student access to everyone else's grades :)

Actually, in my fresh Forma 1.3 installation, students seeing the Teacher menu is the default behavior for a newly-created course. If you could just point me in the right direction: I assume by the "backend", you mean the Admin Area? Which menu from the Admin Area adjusts the access rights for the Teacher menu?

Many thanks, Robert

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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby max » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:37 pm

Hi Robert,
you're welcome! Sorry about those default behaviors you're writing about. Is it an upgrade from a previous instance or an installation from scratch?

However:
Go to the Admin Area
Elearning>settings>manage menu
Edit the menus as you like, by clicking on this icon
Cattura.JPG

In the following menu, edit the single areas by clicking on the same icon
Re-assign the menu you just modified to your course (s)

Bonus tips:
you'll see a couple of different menus: my advice is to decide if you need more than one or not. If you just need one, get rid of the other.
If you need more, rename them with something meaningful for you.
Since they are sorted in alphabetical order, be careful how you name the one you want as a "default" menu, this will save you a lot of time and hassle.
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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby rbullington » Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:32 pm

Thanks for the helpful reply, Max!

As your reply was coming in, I was in the process of correcting. The menus in question were part of the "self-training" menu. So, from the "Admin" area, I navigated to E-Learning->Settings->Manage Menu. Then, selected "Self-Training", and clicked on the menu icon next to the "Teacher" menu. In the next screen, I was able to click the edit icon for each of the items, then uncheck rights for everyone but Administrators and Instructors. Now when someone logs in as a Student, if no items in the "Teacher" menu are permitted, the "Teacher" menu just doesn't appear. This is exciting - I'm finally starting to get how Forma LMS is laid out!

To answer your question about default behavior, I have two instances of Forma LMS v1.3 now: one at my office, and one at my client's site. At this point, we're prototyping, so Forma LMS has been a great way to quickly deploy an LMS and host quizzes that I have been authoring for them in Captivate 8. When they're ready to move from the prototype to a production instance, we may have another, more important conversation.

....so the default behavior isn't that big a deal yet. What is more important now is that we still have to manually import SCORM results at the grade book. Do you anticipate making this automatic in the next one or two versions?

Thanks again for your quick reply, and providing a product that lets me break into the e-learning market!

Kind regards, Robert

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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby max » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:58 pm

Hi Robert,

happy I could be useful. From your next question, I suspect you don't know that even scorm results can appear in the gradebook without adding them manually. What you have to add manually is the scorm itself. If you already knew that, I'm sorry I misinterpreted your comment.

Anyway, I thought this could be helpful for anybody who doesn't know about adding scorm results to the GB. Here's my little tutorial: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12115
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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby rbullington » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:53 pm

Thank you for that clarification, Max. I was under the (perhaps mistaken) impression that I'd have to click on the "add SCORM results" menu periodically, as new results were collected. This impression was perhaps reinforced by a comment someone posted a few weeks ago (?) about "fixing' the problem with SCORM results in a future version. I appreciate your help and your patience as I get to know FormaLms - I feel very fortunate to have discovered it!

All best, Robert

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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby max » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:35 pm

Hi Robert,

I understand. No, fortunately you don't have to click periodically to "add scorm results". Can you point me to the thread you are referring to? I don't remember it.

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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby rbullington » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:51 pm

Hi Max,

This is the thread I was referring to with the comment about a future fix for integrating SCORM results:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11920&p=14578&hilit=SCORM#p14578

Were you referring to the need to click the "Add SCORM results" menu once for each test, after results have been recorded, or to another issue that's been resolved since that post?

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Re: Hiding Teacher Menu for Students

Postby max » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:47 pm

Hi Robert,
now I understand. That thread was referring to something different.

Adding scorm results to the gradebook has always been possible. To do that, you always had to click (once :-) ) on the button "add scorm results". That has not been touched, since it didn't need to.

The user "Rainier" was referring to something else, i.e. to the fact that the Lms only displays in the gradebook the last achieved Scorm result and doesn't display the previous scores. That hasn't been changed so far; I don't know if it will in future versions.

Now that you are highlighting this I can suggest to developers to take a look at it.
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